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president obama is middle class out. and that's a debate we look forward to continuing over the next few weeks. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> cnbc news conducted a snap poll of voters who watched the debate. 46% say mitt romney won. 22% say president obama won. and 32% called it a tie. much more ahead, including the take on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. >> as president i will sit down on day one with leaders, the democratic leaders, as well as republican leaders. sltz i think governor romney is going to have a first day, going to also appeal obama care. [ male announcer ] if it wasn't for a little thing called the computer, we might still be making mix tapes. find this. pause this. play this. eject this. write this. it's like the days before esurance express lane™. you had to find a bunch of documents just to get a car insurance quote. now express lane finds your driving info with just one click, saving time to be nostalgic about the days before express lane. t
president obama is middle class out. and that's a debate we look forward to continuing over the next few weeks. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. >> thank you. >> cnbc news conducted a snap poll of voters who watched the debate. 46% say mitt romney won. 22% say president obama won. and 32% called it a tie. much more ahead, including the take on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. >> as president i will sit down on day one with leaders, the...
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isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest of seniors here in the country as it related to medicare and he was somebody concerned, in my opinion, about the middle class about doing what's right in terms of going forward in terms of diversifying our resources. i know people say this morning that maybe romney was attacking and energetic and all of that sort of thing, but what i saw in the president was somebody who knew his facts, kept his cool, presented himself in a presidential way and i thought did a fine job. we have to realize there's two more of these debates to go. and i don't know that the president necessarily wanted to unload everything in de
isn't it telling that president obama didn't make much of this 47% gaffe a week ago. >> sir, why didn't the president bring up any of those things? were you watching this wondering that yourself? >> of course. i was watching it and some of the comments that i hear today make me think people were looking for entertainment instead of substance and facts. i was looking for substance and facts. i saw a president who was very calm, cool and collected. he was looking out for the interest...
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president obama is middle-class out. that's the degate we look forward to continuing with over the next five weeks. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >>> krbs news conducted a snap poll of 523 uncommitted voters who watched the debate. 46% say mitt romney won. 22% say president obama won and 32% called it a tie. much more ahead including ezra klein's take on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. he's been a bit of a truth squad. this is msnbc's live coverage of the first presidential debate. >> i'll silt down on day one, the day after i get a elected i'll sit down with leaders, the democratic leaders as well as republican leaders. >> i think governor romney is going to have a busy first day because he's going to repeal obama care which won't be very popular with democrats as you're sitting down with them. the human league playing ] humans. we mean well, but we're imperfect creatures living in a beautifully imperfect world. it's amazing we've made it this far. maybe it's because when on
president obama is middle-class out. that's the degate we look forward to continuing with over the next five weeks. >> thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you. >>> krbs news conducted a snap poll of 523 uncommitted voters who watched the debate. 46% say mitt romney won. 22% say president obama won and 32% called it a tie. much more ahead including ezra klein's take on some of the numbers we heard tonight from mitt romney. he's been a bit of a truth squad. this is...
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couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney, the 20th in the course of the primary, this is a different level. president obama has nodd not ha one for some time. i think president obama has to be careful month to not come off as too harsh. hillary, you're likable enough, when the president can come off a little bit cold. so i think he's going to have to be careful on that. >> and finally, as we go, who brings up bill clinton first? will we see he's campaigning in new hampshire today so he's being deployed. >> i have no doubt that president obama will be happy to invoke bill clinton's support here. and i wouldn't be surprised if romney mentioned him either in terms of trying t
couple weeks on libya you will see governor romney try to go after president obama on competence, on foreign policy but also on the broader issue of competence and leadership. >> and that brings you to the fourth point which is president obama ready for prime time? he's been president for four years. >> right. >> and he is well known for being able to give the great speech. >> right. >> is he ready for this combat? >> that's right. i mean, governor romney,...
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hi, this is barack obama. how are you? >>> final for the "your business" entrepreneur evident week. andrew rosenwalk is the fourth generation owner of rosenwalk tanks. they are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he said you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is going on now... ...with new projects every week and big savings every day. so you can do what needs to be done. today. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, owens corning ecotouch attik insulation is only $11.87 a roll. >>> a pennsylvania judge has dealt a serious blow to republicans who hoped that a tough voter i.d. law might help them capture the state's 20 electoral college votes. the judge's ruling blocks the law from going into effect this year, but for now does not strike down the law itself. nbc news's justice correspondent pete williams joins us now. pete, good afternoon. what did th
hi, this is barack obama. how are you? >>> final for the "your business" entrepreneur evident week. andrew rosenwalk is the fourth generation owner of rosenwalk tanks. they are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he said you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. for more watch "your business" this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. or get the yard ready for cool an energy weather?n to size? the answer? a lot less. the great american fix-up is...
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possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is because he's black. i mean, this -- you also had john sununu several months ago say he doesn't understand what it is to be an american, which he tried to backtrack on that again. again andrea mitchell tried to give him a chance to save himself. time and again we have heard these kinds of attacks that, you know what? john sununu should just keep saying it. every time they say it, a further galvanizes our side. if that's what you really think of the president, go ahead and keep saying it because it only helps us. >> karen, finney, professor james piterson, thank you for joining us. next. was mr. romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to jus
possible as to why barack obama could be ahead in the polls is because he's black. i mean, this -- you also had john sununu several months ago say he doesn't understand what it is to be an american, which he tried to backtrack on that again. again andrea mitchell tried to give him a chance to save himself. time and again we have heard these kinds of attacks that, you know what? john sununu should just keep saying it. every time they say it, a further galvanizes our side. if that's what you...
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>> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we've seen the bounces and swings. this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama. nothing has fundamentally changed. if things keep move inning this direction and this just isn't a reaction to one very bad night for obama last week, well, then, we talk about something else. it's not clear that's what happened yet. >> don't tell that to andrew sullivan, because he is having a breakdown in "the daily beast" today. he laments what he calls devastating new positill numberd he calls the president too air grant to take a core campaign responsibility too seriously, too arrogant to give his supporters kwwhat they deserve.
>> it's time for obama to panic. we did this a couple of weeks ago when the polls were the other way, and then it was time for romney to panic. it's probably not time for anybody to panic. this race is now what it was weeks ago, months ago, and that's a fairly close race it will on election day. it's decided by two, three percentage points. we've seen the bounces and swings. this one is going in romney's direction. it appears if you look at the battleground states, it still favors obama....
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this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at the center. he didn't do that. he stayed right through the summer and masterfully, wednesday, started to go i'm for pre-existing condition coverage, i'm for education and all this good stuff. >> i think part of that, you're right, in your analysis there. that's what happens politically. i think for the romney campaign they took that strategy, elongated it because they had shoring up to do with their base. >> can you pull it off? can you make that switcharoo in september. >> i think you can. >> or october rather. >> i think you can. number one. number two, we saw obama do the same thing. he was
this week the etch-a-sketch came alive during his debate with president obama. he got away with it. he keeps this act up or will we have to fight a tougher fight with obama in the next rounded? michael steele is here with us and cynthia tucker is here as well. thank you, cynthia and michael, there's an old tradition in politics you go to the fringe or hard left or right to win the caucuses and start to move slowly, the big battleship around so by labor day you're ready to confront the enemy at...
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. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get going, it's slowed it down. >> now seems to be a supporter of wall street regulation. >> want to repeal dodd/frank? >> and replace it. we're not going to get rid of regulation. some parts of dodd/frank that make all of the sense in the world. >> and back in june, romney mocked the president's crazy ideas about needing more teachers for the nation's classrooms. >> he says we need more firemen, more policemen, more teachers. did he not get the mess naj wisconsin? the american people did. >> last night romney became a crusader for -- wait for it -- teachers. >> i love great schools. massachusetts, our schools are ranged number one of all 50 states. and the key to great schools, great teachers. so i reject the ide
. >> president obama was just as surprised. >> well, for 18 months he's been running on this tax plan. and now, five weeks before the election, he's saying that his big, bold idea is never mind. >> but the etch a sketching did not stop there. governor romney who once believed financial regulation was hurting the economy -- >> dodd frank it's called, has not helped enterprise get going, it's slowed it down. >> now seems to be a supporter of wall street regulation....
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that's only, you know, kind of become clear in the last few weeks. >> you've talked about that. obama is actually in the better position to be winning. >> should be winning, counter intuitive when unemployment is stuck over 8%. >> what do you mean? >> we have so few presidential elections in the modern era, once every four years, there's not a lot of data. what you find is like look at 1980 with jimmy carter losing, incumbent president, 1992, george bush losing, after one term. you had basically the economy was going in the wrong -- it was not growing. it has been growing under obama. it's not explosive growth like ronald reagan had in 1984, able to win 49 states, but it's been slowly growing. you have that and you have another thing that political scientists kind of found there seems to be an advantage the less time your party has been in the white house, the more -- so bush sr. in '92 that's 12 years of republican rule. people are itching for change at that point. four years coming in off what obama inherited is a different situation. >> you know, one thing i would say is that
that's only, you know, kind of become clear in the last few weeks. >> you've talked about that. obama is actually in the better position to be winning. >> should be winning, counter intuitive when unemployment is stuck over 8%. >> what do you mean? >> we have so few presidential elections in the modern era, once every four years, there's not a lot of data. what you find is like look at 1980 with jimmy carter losing, incumbent president, 1992, george bush losing, after...
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i have reviewed 14 businesses this week from restaurants to rental cars to widgets. i have seen everybody with a third quarter equal to or weaker than first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a gdp going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7 to 1.3. the third quarter is the no going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than any surge since 1983 a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the analysis. >> i'm just going back because it seemed like you were doing that. let me go to keith hall. he was bush's guy, commissioner of the bls. he said to "the wall street journal" today following what you said, there's no way someone at the bureau of labor statistics could change any data from its surveys. these numbers are good. so why do you know more than him? do you really -- i think it gets back to the question of integrity. do you believe that the bls lacks integrity? that a president of the united states -- nixon said he could never get to them. he used to say there's an et
i have reviewed 14 businesses this week from restaurants to rental cars to widgets. i have seen everybody with a third quarter equal to or weaker than first quarter. in order to get 873,000 new jobs, you would have to have a gdp going at 4% to 5%. the second quarter was downgraded from 1.7 to 1.3. the third quarter is the no going to be very strong. it just defies the imagination to have a surge larger than any surge since 1983 a month before the election. i leave it to you to do all the...
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there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of the ryan budget cuts. >> right. rom uh any down played the ryan road map. keep in mind the first ryan budget plan included privatizing social security, at least to a certain extent. that's something ryan then dropped in his subsequent budgets. it was there and he was one of the advocates of the plan to put it in the market. secondly the medicare issue. those entitlements, we'll ha from biden about thursday. a lot of democrats think he dropped the ball not pushing the issues against mitt romney. joe biden will read ryan's book and go after those entitlements. >> up next, as mitt romney focus
there is pressure on biden to deliver after president obama's poor performance last week. also, this is a campaign where president obama is running as much against paul ryan's ideas as he is against mitt romney. that elevates ryan as well. >> it seems clear in choosing chris van holland they will go against the first ryan budget, the first medicare plan and also the ryan book. they will go after the budget cuts and troo to tag mitt romney with the severity, using the term relatively, of...
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i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you nutrition, energy, and can help you keep a healthy weight. campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the gang just love pushing that right wing agenda of theirs. but voters, yeah, let's just say they didn't find it as charming. now the gop's running from their record. vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheat
i mean, those poll numbers are pretty locked in six weeks out. >> governor ed endell and alicia menendez, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks, rev. >>> still ahead, eric cantor and the tea party were going to change washington. now they're hiding from their records. but we won't let them. that's next. [ male announcer ] how do you measure happiness? by the armful? by the barrelful? the carful? how about...by the bowlful? campbell's soups give you...
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mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is preparing for a co comeback and joking about the last performance. >> everybody here incredible professionals, such great friends and they just perform flawlessly. night after night. i can't always say the same. >> i want to bring in perry bacon and robert costa. good morning, guys. >> good morning, chris. >> good morning. >> so, what do you think? does this poll give the obama campaign something to worry about? what do you think, perry? >> i think the debate performance gave them something to worry about. you have seen democrats very strongly critical of his debate performance. the poll itself shows the race
mitt romney pulled dead even with president obama in the very latest gallup tracking poll. before the debate, the president was up by five. >> we had a little debate earlier this week and i enjoyed myself. >> the romney campaign is making adjustments trying to keep the momentum going and move the elect rat in the swing states where it counts. nest hour, he'll be giving a major foreign policy speech and then later in the day campaigning in newport news. >> the chief is...
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, so i bet you the week after the next debate, we will not be having a conversation about how poorly he did but a conversation about how great he did. the bigger issue here, the republicans are going to have a tough chance because they don't really have an opportunity to spend more money on fields. you can't just dump enough money on the ground in the last month to try to turn on a field operation. that's something you have to build over weeks and months coming up to an election and there's no evidence that i have seen anywhere, i was down in tampa last weekend dealing with a lot of the obama troops, and there's no ground i have seen where republicans have really focused on the field operation. >> guys, great of you to come in on friday. have a great weekend. >>>making news, janet napolitano is on her way to arizona after the death of nicholas ivy. that's the border agent who was killed on tuesday. his funeral is set for monday. >>> now federal investigators tell nbc news that based on evidence they found so far, they're looking at whether the shootings may have been a case of friend
, so i bet you the week after the next debate, we will not be having a conversation about how poorly he did but a conversation about how great he did. the bigger issue here, the republicans are going to have a tough chance because they don't really have an opportunity to spend more money on fields. you can't just dump enough money on the ground in the last month to try to turn on a field operation. that's something you have to build over weeks and months coming up to an election and there's no...
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what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that these set of economic policies are wrong and i have a compelling vision. whether he can do that is another story. >> your colleague e.j. deion wrote journalists are in search of defining moments and game changers. by this standard, romney needs to game changer. obama can live quite happily without one. so do you think that mitt romney needs to have a big moment or if he is perceived to have won will at least give republicans some momentum. is that really the most reasonable thing to hope for? >> well, certainly it will. if the race were sort of fixed in time righ
what he needs to do is kind of what obama did in 2008. when you look at when things started to move for obama, it was during the debates. specifically he made the case then right or wrong that he was a better steward of the economy than john mccain in troubled times. romney's got to make that case in 2012. >> little different when you're running against an incumbent. right? there's not a direct parallel there. >> look at the transcript. he was running against president bush. that...
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barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have compeco completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely accurate. >> meanwhile, paul ryan is pretending that he is not memorizing lines. >> you know me well, i don't try to be anybody other than who i am. i believe what i believe and i do what i do and believe in the policies that we are providing, purs pursuing, at the end of the day i'm going to go in there and be me. y >> crystal, let's look at paul ryan going with his gutt with chris wallace. >> you haven't given me the math. >> it would take me too long to go through all of the math. >> it is too long. it is complicated. i don't want to talk about. i mean, joe biden is not going to have any fear of being
barack obama has been right. they are the facts. >> in the spotlight tonight the next debate. at this exact moment one week from now vice president joe biden and paul ryan will be hugging their families on a stage where they will have compeco completed their debate. >> what i have been doing mostly is studying up on congressman ryans positions on the issues. and governor romney has embraced everything i can see. i don't want to say anything in the debate that is not completely...
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what is the obama campaign saying today? next, press secretary ben labolt. [ le announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you paid...wow. hmmm. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. see? walmart has all these leading eyewear brands and styles. rockstar! really? yeah. oh, wow! oh, black frame looks good on you. yeah? you can get a complete pair starting at just -- $38. really?! and did you know that our glasses come with a free 12-month replacement guarantee? i didn't know walmart had all this. the price is impressive, the quality is too! come to walmart and see for yourself. find quality eyewear brands starting at just $38. only at walmart. what are they fitting, aliens? >>> some of the president's most ardent supporters are scratching their heads trying to explain what appeared possible
what is the obama campaign saying today? next, press secretary ben labolt. [ le announcer ] there are only so many foods that make kids happy. and even fewer that make moms happy too. with wholesome noodles and bite sized chicken, nothing brings you together like chicken noodle soup from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. you paid...wow. hmmm. let's see if walmart can help you find the same look for less. okay. see? walmart has all these leading eyewear brands and styles. rockstar!...
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he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who has totally different plans than he really has said in the past. >> does this mean the president has fulfilled his promise to get unemployment below 8% and this isn't a one-term proposition? >> you know, you can't deny the numbers. 7.8% is, in fact, lower than 8%, and that's kind of the benchmark that the republicans have laid out. i'm sure they are extremely disappointed that there are better job numbers in the united states of america because they have been trying to sabotage any efforts, every day i see it in the congress, they have been trying to sabotage
he said obama wants to hire more teachers and i'm not for that. that suddenly he's for -- he's not for cutting taxes on the top earners in this country, on the wealthy, and, of course, his whole proposal is denying that he has a proposal that would cut taxes by $5 trillion. there's a name to that proposal. he printed it out. the analysis that was done was based on a romney proposal that now he says he doesn't know what obama is talking about. it's utterly amazing, hard to debate somebody who...
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does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as far from a conservative, a re masum you can put on the table. if you were honest, that's not the guy you would vote for, maybe someone in the middle, a moderate republican. but you a staunch conservative would not vote for mitt romney, the one na showed up last night? >> well, one of the things -- your question, of course, answers why i've done what i did the last five years trying to stop him from being the nominee, but he did effective things defending conservative values last night. if you look at one focus groups one of the networks did o
does barack obama want to be president? he looked like he'd rather have his toenails removed with a dull, rusty blade than on that stage that last night? >> does he wants to support education? he says he won't cut education. that is different from congressman paul ryan's budget, who is the guy that you conservatives champion as the truth teller for your party. the list goes on and on for taxes as well. so the guy you're saying who showed up yesterday, if the scorecard is correct, is as...
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we're not going to see that in the next four weeks, but this gives obama the space and frankly gives governor romney the space to say, we're no longer in the crisis we're in. what are we going to do so that four years from now when whoever runs for president four years from now faces an economic with a lower unemployment rate. >> both candidates have their opportunity based on these numbers and quite honestly even numbers before that to point toward a vision for what's next. >> which is lacking from the debate the other night. >> correct. what romney does not have an opportunity to do is make a concerted, passionate argument about how bad things are and how much worse this administration has made them. you can have an open argument about how much better they could and who has a better glide path to that future, and hopefully that's what we get in the next four weeks, right? you can't do this is terrible and this is made worse by this administration. >> let's talk about the jobs have been added, health care, transportation, leisure, hospitality and construction as well. 16,000 jobs lo
we're not going to see that in the next four weeks, but this gives obama the space and frankly gives governor romney the space to say, we're no longer in the crisis we're in. what are we going to do so that four years from now when whoever runs for president four years from now faces an economic with a lower unemployment rate. >> both candidates have their opportunity based on these numbers and quite honestly even numbers before that to point toward a vision for what's next. >>...
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>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at the debate romney says he was wrong. as for the president, he put some mileage between himself and the mile high city with much more fiery talk than anything we heard from him at the actual debate. but is the president's tough talk too little too late? good morning from washington. it's friday, october 5th, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm chuck todd. we'll have much more on the new jobs numbers in minutes with economist mark zandi, texas senator kay bailey hutchison is here, and an exclusive this morning senior adviser to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning
>>> the unemployment rate dropped below 8% for the first time in the obama presidency hitting 7.8% for september. but the raw job gains are tepid. will the below 8% news do much to change the economic perceptions of undecided voters in the final weeks before the election? meanwhile a shifted swagger as mitt romney waits to see if his numbers swing up after a decisive debate. he certainly has a spring in his step out on the campaign trail. on the whole 47% comment that never came up at...
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exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest gains in michigan andmo
exactly four weeks from election day, mitt romney leads president obama fors the first time in some post-debate polls. romney's biggest gains in michigan andmo
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and president obama, his policies really appeal to those voters a lot more. it's interesting that now it's a five-point lead because for about six months, up until a week or two ago, president obama had a narrow one to two-point le lead, so that really shows that president obama is breaking out in some of the key swing states like colorado. >> we shall all be watching tonight to see how things go down there in denver. diana degette, thank you, i appreciate it. >>> up next, painting denver pink. planned parenthood launches an anti romney blitz in colorado. i'm going to talk to the organization's president. >>> plus, bringing sexy back. politico's jonathan allen says biden is number two on the ticket, but number one in their hearts. how the v.p. is winning over seniors. and you can join our conversation on facebook. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary
and president obama, his policies really appeal to those voters a lot more. it's interesting that now it's a five-point lead because for about six months, up until a week or two ago, president obama had a narrow one to two-point le lead, so that really shows that president obama is breaking out in some of the key swing states like colorado. >> we shall all be watching tonight to see how things go down there in denver. diana degette, thank you, i appreciate it. >>> up next,...
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we've got five weeks. anything can happen, but people want to see some passion. >>> president obama took a break from debate preparation today in nevada to visit the set of the racial maddow tv commercial. a new national nbc news poll tonight shows that 52% of registered voters view the president positively, 42% view him negatively. 41% view mitt romney positively, 44% view romney negatively. mitt romney's favorability rating is lower than every other presidential nominee's rating at this point in the election in the history of this poll, except for george h.w. bush's 34/52 rating. and he lost that election. tonight, ann romney seems sure that the country will soon realize how lucky we are that mitt romney is running for president. >> i know he's very well prepared. he's focused, he's very bright. i think the country will be blessed by having someone with his skill set, his experience and his -- just his goodness. to be able to run this country. this guy does care that he's out there. and he's a person wit
we've got five weeks. anything can happen, but people want to see some passion. >>> president obama took a break from debate preparation today in nevada to visit the set of the racial maddow tv commercial. a new national nbc news poll tonight shows that 52% of registered voters view the president positively, 42% view him negatively. 41% view mitt romney positively, 44% view romney negatively. mitt romney's favorability rating is lower than every other presidential nominee's rating at...
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it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that had president obama up eight, nine, ten points nationally, let's see where it sorts out at the end of the week or beginning of next week. if you are mitt romney, this is -- the pew poll yesterday was huge news because a lot of what happens here at the end and we are 28 days away, is momentum based. for folks who haven't made their mind up yet you want to look like you're the guy with the momentum. coming off the debate and the pew poll you now can make the case that mitt romney is the guy who is kind of the energy and enthusiasm candidate. i think some polls will come out in places like ohio, virginia, north caro
it's the latest dose of reality for the obama camp in a race that is evolving with only weeks left until election day. joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, msnbc contributor and managing editor o of postpolitics.com and mark halperin for "time" and msnbc. joining us from chicago. chris cizilla, first of all to you, the new polls certainly have given a great burst of energy to mitt romney's campaign. >> no question. i would say and we said this when there was polling that...
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over the previous week we had tremendous media coverage of romney's 47% figure. that is something that was in the news, got tremendous coverage at the time that quinnipiac was in the field and a lot of other polls were in the field. >> both sides will tell you they don't pay attention to the polls, but sure enough when one side is down, they'll be fast to poo-poo them. >>> we have a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll out tonight with fascinating insights ahead of tomorrow night's debates. >>> up next, i'll talk to philadelphia mayor michael nutter about the breaking news on p.a.'s voter i.d. law being blocked. >>> governor romney is a self-proclaimed red sox fan. why did he make an investment in the yankees? that was me... the day i learned i had to start insulin for my type 2 diabetes. me... thinking my only option was the vial and syringe dad used. and me... discovering once-daily levemir® flexpen. flexpen® is prefilled. doesn't need refrigeration for up to 42 days. no drawing from a vial. dial the exact dose. inject by pushing a button. flexpen® is insulin
over the previous week we had tremendous media coverage of romney's 47% figure. that is something that was in the news, got tremendous coverage at the time that quinnipiac was in the field and a lot of other polls were in the field. >> both sides will tell you they don't pay attention to the polls, but sure enough when one side is down, they'll be fast to poo-poo them. >>> we have a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll out tonight with fascinating insights ahead of...
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. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's drop in unemployment. the narrative of cooking the books. we heard it over and over. well that's going to wrap things up for me. thanks for your time. see you back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. joining me sean spicer, ron fournier, the journal editor in teach and jimmy williams and hogan gibbly. "now" with alex wagner is coming your way next. hi, alex. >> hey, thomas. radish stew. i'm kidding. something more than radish stew with 28 days to go team romney is etch a sketching the etch a sketch as the romney fortifies the wall of obfuscation. we will examine his latest recalibration. the obama camp gives it the bi
. >> apparently after last week's debate, polls show obama trailing mitt romney by one point. yeah. one point or as is also known the thing that obama failed to make during last week's debate. >> a lot of people are saying the government is cook the books. >> look i got to say if you're cooking the books 7.8% unemployment is a [ bleep ] recipe. like the radish stew of jobless numbers. >> that was jon stewart in comedy central taking on those who questioned last week's...
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smoke screen and strategy with the obama campaign's ben labolt, just ahead. time for the entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation of rosenwach tanks. find his family's wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. these tanks are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. to me, relationships matt
smoke screen and strategy with the obama campaign's ben labolt, just ahead. time for the entrepreneur of the week. andrew is the fourth generation of rosenwach tanks. find his family's wooden water tanks on hundreds of new york city rooftops. these tanks are shaped by hand with half century old tools. he says you don't throw out what works. you just build upon it. watch your business this sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when...
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and he's -- about a month -- two weeks ago the polls were broadly for obama. now it's closing a bit because of the male part. white males tend to be republican voters and they're coming back to romney a little bit after a bit. in ohio they're not. seems as if in ohio the bain capital message has sunk in. virginia, florida, the white vote will go to romney. >> what struck you about that apparent contradiction in the polling? >> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come down after the post-convention. you're seeing it sort of return to a place where it was very tight. you saw aa shift among independents in florida, which is what made up a lot of that shift. the striking thing about all three polls is how few persuadable voters there are. that's what these debates are usually about but it may wind up be something to turn out the base and fire up some of their people. >> one of the issue, i put this to both of you, one of the problems with mitt romney's campaign, which has been critiqued by those on the left and right, his friends and enemies, is th
and he's -- about a month -- two weeks ago the polls were broadly for obama. now it's closing a bit because of the male part. white males tend to be republican voters and they're coming back to romney a little bit after a bit. in ohio they're not. seems as if in ohio the bain capital message has sunk in. virginia, florida, the white vote will go to romney. >> what struck you about that apparent contradiction in the polling? >> i think you saw a little bit of that bounce kind of come...
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the bad news is, president obama's number hasn't moved. so the bounce that he got into the 49, 50% range has held where it's governor romney's number that is fluid. are you one of those that believe that 49, 50% is the winning range? so that your next job, you're in the race, then the next job is you have to figure out how to peel votes away. >> you look at this in the context of where we are. there's five-plus weeks. there's a lot that can happen in five weeks. there's three presidential debates. and there's probably two or three hundred million ads to be dumped on the public. things change in presidential campaigns quite actively in september and early october. it's now that you start looking at serious numbers. the carter/reagan race didn't change until the last few weeks. there's a close parallel between this and carter/reagan. >> let me ask you about new hampshire's poll. i'm sure you didn't miss it. 15-point deficit for mitt romney. i'm guessing you'll argue with some parts. >> i'm not going to argue with it at all. do you really bel
the bad news is, president obama's number hasn't moved. so the bounce that he got into the 49, 50% range has held where it's governor romney's number that is fluid. are you one of those that believe that 49, 50% is the winning range? so that your next job, you're in the race, then the next job is you have to figure out how to peel votes away. >> you look at this in the context of where we are. there's five-plus weeks. there's a lot that can happen in five weeks. there's three presidential...
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they held a cheap gas stunt in iowa last week. ever wonder what it's like to walk around new york city if you're the secretary of state? a lot of people stop hillary clinton and ask for a photograph, and here's what happens next. >> i don't mind if they can just figure out how to use their cameras. that is my big problem. i am more than happy to stop for 30 seconds to take a picture, but what happens invariably is people get so nervous, they can't figure out how to make the camera work. and then i've got people trying to help them to get their camera to work, but nevertheless. >> finally, ahead of their husband's debates tomorrow, michelle obama and ann romney have already gone head to head in a kitchen match for family circle's annual cookie bakeoff. the first ladies white and dark chocolate chip cookie bite ann romney's m&m's cooks by 287 folks. family circle says it's a bellwether in four of five elections. those are the things we thought you should know. [ male announcer ] you like who you are... and you learned something alon
they held a cheap gas stunt in iowa last week. ever wonder what it's like to walk around new york city if you're the secretary of state? a lot of people stop hillary clinton and ask for a photograph, and here's what happens next. >> i don't mind if they can just figure out how to use their cameras. that is my big problem. i am more than happy to stop for 30 seconds to take a picture, but what happens invariably is people get so nervous, they can't figure out how to make the camera work....
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"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the first touch of the white stuff. not much accumulation but frigid with lows falling into the 20s. nbc meteorologist stephanie abrams has news about the rest of the country. >> big changes across a big chunk of the country. there's a solid cold front. we have that rain and clouds right now extending anywhere from the northeast all the way back down to the south. that is the weathermaker. ahead of that, warm temperatures. behind it cold temperatures. take a quick screen grab of that. as i change the graphic you're going to see those temperatures in the 60s all the way u
"michelle obama which is visit durango. she's expected to promote early voting there which begins in a couple of weeks. >>> from extreme eastern washington state the front page of the "moscow-pullman daily news" about how homecoming is crucial to the town of moscow idaho and the president of washington state university recommending tuition rates should not rise higher than the rate of inflation. >>> now to our weekend weather. folks in colorado dealing with the...
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policies of the obama administration, what the president of the company said. i think they've been specific on the types of things that they would do to be able to increase jobs, provide more access to the american dream, and tough decisions have to be made. i cut spending in virginia about $6 billion eliminating deficits. republican governors have done it all over the country. sure there was some complaining and hardship at the beginning but we're running surpluses and the job rates in red states are better than blue states and that's what mitt romney will do. >> he's been specific about his goals. he hasn't been specific about how to reach those goals. what about what paul ryan acknowledged on fox -- >> andrea, hold on. >> go ahead. >> i have to stop you on that. the president of the united states, has not got a budget passed in three and a half years. that's -- you know, governors balance budgets every year on time. this president has not got a budget passed either house, even though he's had a majority. the president has had no plan to reduce the debt. he's
policies of the obama administration, what the president of the company said. i think they've been specific on the types of things that they would do to be able to increase jobs, provide more access to the american dream, and tough decisions have to be made. i cut spending in virginia about $6 billion eliminating deficits. republican governors have done it all over the country. sure there was some complaining and hardship at the beginning but we're running surpluses and the job rates in red...
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i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain debates and the george w. bush debates and the bob dole debates and the george h.w. debates. again, a great man, a horrific debater. you know, the famous jon lovitz line, "i can't believe i'm losing to this guy." playing michael dukakis. you really do have to go back to ronald reagan to find a republican that was in command during a presidential debate. and i predict that's going to excite the republican base in a way it hasn't been excited in a very long time. we're not used to winning debates like this. >> right. >> i'd even -- i think you're exact
i was surprised that obama didn't bring it up. biggest surprise for me of the night is that it didn't come up. it's been the dominant thing in our debate for the last few weeks. >> david axelrod is coming up. jon meacham, you look over the past 25 years, 30 years or so, and you look at the republican presidential candidates who all have strengths, they've all been remarkable men in their own way, but not good debaters. you know, republicans have held our breath through the john mccain...
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by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the republicans look desperate. but yes, overall, i think the debate had a terrible impact for the president and one that i think is surprisingly lasting. >> yeah, why is that? >> well, because a lot of people were watching and because you're wondering why things don't work in washington. and when you see two people go head to head and you see it be so starkly clear stylistically, you kind of wonder if that is brought home. >> that the president's disconnect -- >> yeah. so there's a lot of work to be done in the next debate. i mean, a lot of work. he's going to have to get his hands dirty. >> i take it if we're hearing th
by the middle of next week, people will say barack obama can't walk down the sidewalk without stumbling. i'm stunned by -- i mean, the republicans are excited, but i'm stunned by how democrats seem to keep getting more depressed every day. i've had people that have never voted republican in their life. >> right. >> saying i may have to do it this year. >> i think there's been that. there's also been a little bit of a back-and-forth about the jobs numbers that have made the...
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but today president obama leads on medicare by 12 points. leads on medicare by even more than he's ahead on health care in general. it's also interesting that the president's middle east numbers, specifically, is ten points higher than his advantage over mr. romney on the broad issue of foreign policy. and then we get into some real contested ground. the president is favored on the issue of taxes, but on the generic question of who would be better trusted to handle the economy, mr. romney leads by three. on the deficit, mr. romney leads by nine. on all of these issues, that's the one on which he has the strongest trust from voters as compared with president obama. and that confidence in mr. romney on the deficit turns up not just in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, but in a lot of national polls. even though he hasn't given a lot of details as to how he would handle the deficit as an issue. the bottom line, there's no question as to who you would rather be here, right? you would rather be president obama than mitt romney looking at these
but today president obama leads on medicare by 12 points. leads on medicare by even more than he's ahead on health care in general. it's also interesting that the president's middle east numbers, specifically, is ten points higher than his advantage over mr. romney on the broad issue of foreign policy. and then we get into some real contested ground. the president is favored on the issue of taxes, but on the generic question of who would be better trusted to handle the economy, mr. romney leads...
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one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc political analyst eugene robinson. i've got to ask you the big question, are you for the nats or for the orioles? >> i've got to be for the nats, although we're a mixed marriage. my wife was born in baltimore. >> oh. >> not an ill word can be said about the baltimore orioles in my house. >> yeah. >> nonetheless, i'm following the nats and cheering the nats. but, you know, the orioles are playing the yankees last night and beat them. you've got to root against the yankees, right? >> of course you do. if you love -- well, i mean, only if you love america. >> yes, right. >> i do love america. >> you do lo
one point, or as it's also known, the thing obama failed to make during last week's debate. huh? speaking of the election, you guys, the vice presidential debate is just three days away. both sides are busy getting ready and republican candidate paul ryan says he expects joe biden to come at him like a cannon ball. biden was like, there's going to be a pool there? i'm more of a belly flop guy, but i can -- >>> and with us now from washington, pulitzer prize winning columnist, msnbc...
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it is going to be fascinating to see what the polls show this next week. a lot of it may hinge on what happens in three minutes. we've got the jobs report coming out and the obama campaign obviously crossing their fingers. >> we'll bring that to you live. chuck and miles stay with us. the jobs number is moments away. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> breaking news. the jobs numbers are out the lowest since january of 2009. >> 7.8%. that politically is great news. however, you got to scratch your heads. 114,000 nonfarm jobs added. you have to have 150,000 just to keep up with population growth. i'm not an economist but this has to mean that more and more people, miles nadal, are discouraged and have just stopped looking for work. if you're not even having enough jobs created to keep up with population growth, and t
it is going to be fascinating to see what the polls show this next week. a lot of it may hinge on what happens in three minutes. we've got the jobs report coming out and the obama campaign obviously crossing their fingers. >> we'll bring that to you live. chuck and miles stay with us. the jobs number is moments away. we'll be right back. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy...
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here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning after all of this erupted. >> it was bad press by them. but what we pointed out early on is it was insults to americans to propose the idea that it was based on the youtube video. that people showed up with heavy weapons, rpgs and things like that as i said before to talk about a mouth breather in the united states that 3,000 people on youtube had seen. that was the insult. that wasn't the problem, that they went out publicly and said right away it was based on the video. >> bottom line, mark halperin, you look at all the polls, americans want to get ba
here we are how many weeks later? >> i'm asking if it works coming from paul ryan. >> can i ask you a question? how many weeks? >> two and a half weeks. >> two and a half weeks later? i think we're good. what did paul ryan say, willie? he said the response was slow, confused, and it is. in the middle of all this, the president thinks it's a bump in the road. i think two weeks later, not time to ask these questions? the biggest problem before was they did it the morning...